I refute it thus

Yesterday I was bothering the wife with some philosoapy (no, not a spelling error this. I can't say the word with a straight face) about existence, perception, spinoza's god and the like. Dear Mr Berkeley was at our side urging us to consider the irrefutable dictum of his that "to be is to perceive" and that ultimate existence is in the mind. In short, Berkeley said that If no one is looking at a tree, the tree does not exist. The tree, the rock, the moon and all else certainly exist even when we don't see it. How so? Berkeley's Philosoapy has the most astonishing answer I've ever heard. It says everything exists even when we don't see 'em because He, the God dude, sees all things all the time. God makes existence be by perceiving it.

In service of hilarity I'll sacrifice further nuances of Berkeley and present to you the famous limerick. (Oh, come on. What's a philosoapy worth if we can't have a laugh.)

There was a young man who said "God
Must think it exceedingly odd

If he finds that this tree
Continues to be

When there's no one about in the Quad."

"Dear Sir, your astonishment's odd;
I am always about in the Quad

And that's why this tree
Will continue to be

Since observed by Yours faithfully, God."
-Ronald Knox

The title of the post comes from that quip of Samuel Johnson - who when confronted with Berkeley's supposition that a mind is all that truly exists - supposedly gave a hard kick to a stone and said "I refute it thus".

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Many years ago, my roommate in graduate school wrote this:

Kick at the rock, Sam Johnson, break your bones,
But cloudy, cloudy is the stuff of stones.

As neat as the couplet is, I'm with the dictionary man on this one.

Richard

How about the following: "Very well, Mr. Berkeley, we shall all turn our eyes away. Now you may shut your own eyes, and walk through the tree."

By David Harmon (not verified) on 03 Jan 2007 #permalink

David, from what I understand, Berkeley knew very well about these objections. His philosophy seems to have been misinterpreted. He says the tree is always there because there is a god who keeps "looking" at it all the time. In that sense, he does not deny the existence of trees.

If anyone is interested, my readings are mostly from: http://plato.stanford.edu/

and Russell's book: http://www.amazon.com/History-Western-Philosophy-Touchstone-Book/dp/067…

Selva: So, everything keeps existing because God is watching it, and presumably we know God exists because if he didn't watch everything, it wouldn't keep existing? Circular Bah.

By David Harmon (not verified) on 04 Jan 2007 #permalink

If Yahwh took his hand off of the Heavens and the Earth for one instant, they would be instantly immolated. In fact, this is probably going to be the final event when the end of the World arrives.